A Recovery Oasis at Nate’s Place

Join Paul Ward this week as he delves into the heartwarming story of Nate’s Place, a sanctuary for healing and recovery in Oxnard, CA. In this enlightening episode, Paul sits down with Heidi Allison and Larry Rhoades, the passionate founders behind this beacon of hope. Discover the profound inspiration behind Nate’s Place, born from the journey of their son Nate, who battled addiction, illuminating their path towards creating a haven for others grappling with similar challenges.

Through insightful discussions, Heidi and Larry unveil the holistic approach of Nate’s Place, intertwining addiction recovery with vital mental health support. From empowering statistics on their participant outreach to their impactful community partnerships, explore the ripple effect of Nate’s Place’s compassionate mission. As they share their vision for the future and extend a call to action for support and collaboration, immerse yourself in a narrative of resilience, growth, and unwavering dedication to fostering healing and hope.

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What you’ll learn during this episode:
0:00 Welcome guests Heidi Allison and Larry Rhoades of Nate’s Place
0:29 What is Nate’s Place?
1:22 The history and inspiration of Nate’s Place
4:35 Heidi and Larry learned a lot about their son Nate after he passed
5:28 Nate had personal experience with addiction and recovery from a young age
6:11 Once the need for a facility was discovered, what was the next step in starting Nate’s Place?
9:15 Some staggering stats on overdose, how many “Participants” Nate’s Place has served since opening and how “Participants” begin with the center
11:37 Examples of activities that are available at Nate’s Place for participants to engage in
13:15 What happens when a participant reaches their goals and has been in recovery for awhile
15:09 Heidi shares some information about the Mental Health side of what Nate’s Place does
16:02 The stigma with Mental Health and how it affects all ages and occurs for multiple reasons
17:10 Nate’s Place partners with Ventura County Behavioral Health to visit schools for information talks and prevention groups
17:45 Find out what “Teen Intervene” is and what students are most likely to participate
19:06 Nate’s Place is an environment where participants are getting the help they need while being comforted and doing fun things. 
20:35 The Board of Directors at Nate’s Place
21:18 The miraculous ways “doors keep opening” for Nate’s Place to succeed and grow
22:00 The plans for Nate’s Place in the future
23:15 How to get in touch with Nate’s Place and learn more
24:03 Other Nonprofits and organizations can reach out for potential collaboration and partnerships
24:22 ALL Donations are very much appreciated as Nate’s Place is a Nonprofit
24:27 The 1 Year Anniversary Event 
25:30 A special THANK YOU to our sponsor, Opus Escrow

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Nate’s Place: A Wellness & Recovery Center:
3840 W. Channel Islands Blvd.
Oxnard, CA 93035
Telephone: (805) 628-2552
E-mail: nateswellnesscenter@ gmail.com

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www.natesplacewellnesscenter.org

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Paul Ward (00:04):

Hi everyone, it’s Paul Ward here, and welcome to another 15 minutes. I’m very honored Today we have some special guests, Heidi Allison and Larry Rhodes with Nate’s Place located in Ventura County, California. Welcome Heidi and Larry.

Heidi Allison (00:20):

Thank you. Thank you. So happy to be here, Paul.

Paul Ward (00:24):

Absolutely. Well, it’s my, my honor to have you and tell us about Nate’s place. I understand that it’s a wellness center and, and treatment program for, for troubled kids and young adults.

Heidi Allison (00:35):

Yes. It’s called Nate’s Place, a Wellness and Recovery Center. It’s in Oxnard at Fisherman’s Wharf, and it’s for at risk teens and young adults, 13 to 25 who struggle either with mental health issues. It could be depression, anxiety, trauma and or substance misuse. Or substance use issues. So yes, so we provide services free of charge, and we have two transportation bans and provide free transportation as well.

Paul Ward (01:10):

Okay. And I certainly wanna get into the, to the programs that you offer, but first I wanna share with you, with our audience how, how you, how you formed this organization and and how you came up with the name.

Heidi Allison (01:26):

Sure. Yeah. So we came up with Nate’s place. It’s in honor of our son, Nate Rhodes, who very tragically passed away when he was 21 from a, a traffic collision with a semi-truck. And he had struggled with addiction when he was 14, and we had gotten him into treatment pretty quickly. He had residential and other types of treatment, but the thing that kept Nate through his high school years on the right path was we hired a peer recovery coach. And he was a young person with lived experience, his own addiction issues, but he was in recovery and he kind of, he took Nate under his wing, took him to AA meetings, got him into weightlifting, bodybuilding, boxing, playing the guitar. And Nate learned that he could have fun and rewarding teenage, you know, years without using. And so Nate was doing great. He was he was a certified fitness trainer at Golds Gym, and he had studied addiction studies at NAR College, and he was only 21. And when he, when he had his accident, he was on life support for five days. Oh,

Paul Ward (02:45):

Wow.

Heidi Allison (02:45):

Yeah. But the hospital and all these people kept coming in and telling us how Nate was always checking in with him. He was always reaching out. He was always, we would kind of joke because he was, he was always texting while he was on the toilet in the bathroom, <laugh>. And, but he was like texting all these people, checking in and seeing if they wanted to go to an AA meeting with him, go boxing. And so we had so many people come and tell us that at the hospital, that Larry and myself and Nate’s longtime girlfriend, one of us said, my God, this is like Nate’s place. We were struck by all the people that came and we were like, you know, we, Nate, Nate was always just this incredibly empathetic human and we knew that, and he had a ton of friends, but we didn’t know how.

Heidi Allison (03:34):

He was always checking in with people. People sent us texts, letters. And so we were so inspired by him, and then we just started thinking, oh my God, this is this is what helped him, the recovery recipe. And maybe we could start a center doing the same thing. I’m a licensed social worker. I’ve been a therapist for 23 years. I used to work for the county for 10 years of Ventura. Okay. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And and, and I, in my private practice, see primarily people with Medi-Cal, and I know there’s such a gap in services. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. So we did a whole needs assessment of all the services, and we found that there was nothing really like this. And so yeah, we just, we got the idea. And then it just kind of like, we always say, Nate’s on the other side, steering the ship because just doors started <laugh> all these people who knew him and you know, oh yeah, I know so and so I can connect you to them.

Paul Ward (04:32):

So you learned a lot about, you learned a lot about him after his passing. I mean, it’s not, it’s very unusual for somebody 21 to be that empathetic towards others. I mean, a lot of 21 year olds, you know, stereotyping, but they’re more into themselves and partying than, you know, worried about their fellow, fellow human.

Heidi Allison (04:53):

Yeah. Yeah. so

Paul Ward (04:55):

That was his unique, unique character.

Heidi Allison (04:58):

Yeah. He was, Larry, you wanna jump in and tell about how Nate always was a compassionate kid even when he was young? Yeah.

Larry Rhoades (05:06):

Yeah. He always, no, no matter who or which one of his friends had an issue, he would always be right there to jump in and, and give advice or counsel them. And yeah, he was always, seemed to be always that way. And it was,

Paul Ward (05:26):

And he had that personal,

Larry Rhoades (05:27):

His personality

Paul Ward (05:28):

Experience from a young age. Right. I mean, he, he had issues from the age of 14 I I read. And he overcame, overcame that and kind of knew what the journey was about and Right. What it was gonna take for the next person to, you know, battle his demons and you know, end up okay on the other side.

Heidi Allison (05:47):

Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. He, yeah, he just always was very empathetic. He would always, I remember when he was four and we, if we walked by someone who was homeless, he would wanna give him money. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. And, you know, he, he just always had this big heart. Yeah. That’s wonderful. And so yeah, he was, he was really a special guy. Yeah.

Paul Ward (06:10):

So when you formed Nate’s place and you, you know, you have a, a clinical background working for the county and, and you did a needs assessment and, you know, discovered what was really necessary or what was lacking out in the community what was the next step? You, you, you said, okay, there’s a need here. How did Nate’s place then get, get formed and, and get rolling?

Heidi Allison (06:37):

Well, we we applied for a nonprofit Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. So yeah, we just, yeah. We felt like, okay, so when Nate was young, we paid a lot of money for this coach, and then we weren’t wealthy at all. <Laugh> Mm-Hmm. But it was, it was really expensive. And I remember us saying, how would anyone who didn’t, you know, have a lot of, didn’t have anything, be able to get these services. So we knew that we wanted to target it to people who are low income. And so we, yeah. So we applied for a nonprofit that took like a month and a half or two years, two months. We found an organization back east that someone referred us to that was Great Bright Bridge. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And then and then we we, you know, we, we were told that the way to start a nonprofit and and have success is you gotta get to know government officials and you gotta get to know all the local agencies.

Heidi Allison (07:33):

So we knew, I knew some of the county people, but we kind of reconnect. We went out and just gave presentations. We had a video. Larry and I, two of Nate’s friends wrote songs about him after he passed. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So we, we put that in the video and then we went and met the mayor of Oxnard. We met the councilman, we met Steve Bennett in his office. Assemblyman Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. And so we, and we met the board of supervisors for our area, VNA Lopez. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative> and her chief. And then we just went and started presenting to different organizations. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And people were just like, whoa, we need this so bad. You know, this is like, and then we also, you know, we had so many statistics. Ventura County has the second highest overdose rate for opioids in the state.

Paul Ward (08:20):

Really? I did not know that. Yeah. That’s incredible. We don’t have a very large population.

Heidi Allison (08:24):

No. Over 200 people died of opioids in 2022. Wow. And yeah, there’s a huge task force that the county kind of heads up. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And so yeah, we started looking at the research and we just realized that, and the thing that, that, the thing that we with Nate is once he finished all his, like, residential treatment, and so then he was in individual therapy, but that’s once a week. And at the time we lived in Ojai, and then the rest of the time, now what do you do? Right. So we got him into all these activities with the coach, but we decided if we had a center where we had all these activities with healthy role models and peer coaches, like it would be kind of duplicating what he got. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. But, but we wouldn’t charge anything.

Paul Ward (09:11):

So when your first, when your first patients came to the center what was, what was that like, and how and how does that process work now?

Heidi Allison (09:21):

We call ’em participants. So the way it works is, so we have served now 114 in a year since we started. And that includes 30 something at schools. ’cause We now do groups at schools, prevention groups. But so basically what happens is most of our participants get referred either by schools or Ventura County Behavioral health therapists. And so they reach out. And then I, right now I’m the only one. I do a psychosocial intake with them. And so that’s like an hour and 15 to an hour and a half process.

Paul Ward (09:58):

So you did that with 114?

Heidi Allison (10:00):

I did it with 78 because the Yeah. The 30 something. Yeah. So basically it’s doing a whole assessment and fi identifying their strengths, their goals, their whole psychosocial history, their risks with mental health and substance use. And then they sign all these consent forms. And then I assign them to one of our peer recovery coaches. So we have six coaches now. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> and half of them are bilingual. And I try to match up personality and experience. All of our coaches have training, several are working on their master’s in social work, and one of them is finishing up a bachelor’s in psychology. So I try to match ’em by personality. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative> and experience. And then they, the coach then reaches out to them and they meet with them once every week or two. So they have a standing meeting. They come up with smart goals together on what they wanna, it’s not therapy. All of our coaches have lived experience. They have their own, they’ve had their own struggles and they’re in recovery and they’re doing really well. So part of it is showing them that yeah, you can do it. They understand, they empathize and they’re all young people. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So that’s really important too. And then they have access to 20 plus recreational activities and nine the counseling groups. Wow.

Paul Ward (11:22):

So 20, so they could go with surfing and Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>, rock climbing and mountain biking

Heidi Allison (11:27):

And Right. We don’t do mountain biking yet. <Laugh> <laugh>, but <laugh> hiking. Larry, you wanna say what the activities we do? Yeah.

Larry Rhoades (11:37):

Inside our facility we have a boxing exercise equipment ping pong, nice ping pong table, pool table. We’ve got a, a big area for art art therapy. We’ve got, what, six or seven guitars for music therapy. It’s quite, quite comprehensive.

Paul Ward (12:04):

Wow. So all all interests are covered. Yeah. Yeah.

Larry Rhoades (12:08):

That’s what we tried to do. Really? Yeah.

Heidi Allison (12:09):

Like me, meditation, yoga classes today, they’re making ice cream with supple some of the coaches.

Paul Ward (12:16):

Oh, wow.

Heidi Allison (12:17):

Yeah. So, I mean, just, is

Paul Ward (12:18):

That a group, is that a group activity then? Or is that one of

Heidi Allison (12:21):

Yeah, that’s group activity. Two of the coaches are heading that up. So we try to come up with new things all the time. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative> that will interest them. And then on weekends,

Paul Ward (12:30):

<Crosstalk> just come back to the center more often then.

Heidi Allison (12:33):

Exactly. And then on Saturdays they do, we, this week they did a barbecue at the park. We do hiking. They go on hikes all over Ventura County, rock climbing, kayaking, et cetera. Surfing. Mm-Hmm.

Larry Rhoades (12:47):

<Affirmative>, they’ve all, they’ve also done fishing. Okay. Yeah. Gone out on a, a, a private fishing boat. We took a few of them out.

Heidi Allison (12:56):

Yeah.

Paul Ward (12:56):

So when do you know that that a patient is ready to go back out in the world and, and is, you know, quote unquote recovered? I guess nobody’s ever fully recovered. I mean Right. Everybody has their, their life challenges. But when do you know that you’ve, you’ve achieved your goal with that particular

Heidi Allison (13:15):

Yeah. Well, usually they become busy in their lives again. So like, we’ve had a couple kids, they had been using marijuana and then all of a sudden you know, they, they, they started, they got sober and they joined the football team.

Paul Ward (13:31):

Okay.

Heidi Allison (13:32):

And so they’re so busy with football. We’ve had a couple people get full-time jobs. Their coaches helped them with the application and resume, and they ended up working full-time or going back to going to college. And they just don’t have time anymore.

Paul Ward (13:45):

Right.

Heidi Allison (13:46):

Yeah. So that’s kind of our and, and yeah. And that happens, you know, right now the average time is four, I’d say four to six months.

Paul Ward (13:56):

Yeah. Okay. So they come in and they’re, they’re, you feel that after four to six months they’re, you did your job and they’re on their way.

Heidi Allison (14:03):

Yeah. I mean, that’s not necessarily true. There’s some that have been there nine months. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And they’re doing really well. We have a couple teens that say, they tell us all the time, I’m gonna work here when I’m 18. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. That’s my goal. And they, they love coming. ’cause It’s such a positive environment. We have a vape detector. We don’t, you know, everyone has to sign a guidelines and rules that they don’t vape. They don’t bring any you know, ex any kind of drug paraphernalia or alcohol, they can’t come under the influence. Right. So it’s just a really safe and he healthy wellness. There’s big couches. People come and do their homework after school. So Yeah. So that’s, you know, those are the reasons. And then there are, there’s a small percentage that need a higher level of treatment. So they need to maybe to go to residential or they relapsed and they need to go to a substance use. And we try to help facilitate that and work with, you know, other facilities.

Paul Ward (14:56):

So substance abuse, but also there’s a, there’s a mental illness component to some of these folks, is that correct? Yes.

Heidi Allison (15:02):

Yes. So yeah, it’s substance use and substance misuse and or mental health. So yeah, there are several, you know, there’s some people that have depression, major depressive disorder, anxiety disorder. We have a few people that have bipolar disorder, schizoaffective disorder. And so they’re, they’re, they’re stable on their medications or we try to help them get connected. Mm-Hmm. To the Ventura County Behavior Health. Get in with a psychiatrist and a therapist. ’cause We’re not like the first line of treatment. You know, we have all these groups. We have peer coaching, but we’re, we’re not providing individual therapy.

Paul Ward (15:39):

Okay.

Larry Rhoades (15:40):

I, I think if I could say something, I think it’s important to, to understand, we don’t really call them patients. ’cause Patients, it’s more a medical term. You know, we, our, our term is participant. They’re either participant or a client.

Paul Ward (15:56):

Gotcha. And so that’s, there’s a stigma about, about mental health too. That it’s, you know, homeless people living under the bridge. I mean, it’s shocking that it’s young people too. It’s, it’s, it’s inherited. It’s a, it’s a disease. Right. Right. Is that correct?

Heidi Allison (16:13):

Absolutely. Yeah. It’s a brain disease. Mm-Hmm. I mean, some kinds of depression anxiety can be situational. Mm-Hmm. And trauma can, you know, obviously influence that. But men most, yeah. Most mental illnesses are, you know, genetically based, you know, they’re biological. There’s a strong biological component and also environmental. And so I think that that’s kind of the key thing that was really helpful to a lot of young people. They don’t, they don’t like going to their, or they don’t, and then when they come in Nate’s place and they see all these weightlifting machines. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative> boxing is a huge thing. We have boxing classes three days a week from a former m professional, MMA fighter. And, and they love it. And they’re like, oh my God. Now this is a, I could have handled this. You know, their parents usually want ’em to come first, and they might not wanna come until they come to the center. So what it does is it totally reduces the stigma. And then the other thing that we do in partnership with Ventura County Behavioral Health is we go out to schools and do information talks with partnering agencies on the dangers of vaping, marijuana, nicotine, as well as opioids and fentanyl. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And one of our coaches comes and he tells his story. He a very young person and he, it really resonates with kids. And then we also do prevention groups. We’re gonna be in like five schools here real soon. We’re in two schools now.

Paul Ward (17:38):

Oh, wow. Now, these are high schools, middle schools

Heidi Allison (17:41):

Both high school, middle school. They’re, they’re four week, it’s called Teen Intervene. And it’s part of our partnership with the substance use program at Ventura County Behavioral Health. And our coaches are trained, it’s a Hazelden evidence-based practice. And we go into the schools, the school identifies six to eight people at a time, and they do a four week group. And it’s a whole curriculum based on teaching about the dangers, but also helping them deal with the pros and cons of using peer pressure. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>, how do you get out of this without, you know, while saving face and really looking at the long-term consequences of drugs. Yeah.

Paul Ward (18:19):

Would that be a, would that be a school-wide program, or would that be in like a, maybe the 11th grade class would all participate in this program, or?

Heidi Allison (18:26):

Well, right now, the way it works, we’re at two continuation schools, legacy High School and Ojai and Pacific High School, Ventura. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And we will have done, done all of the students at Legacy High School within this, the next month. And it really depends on the school. A lot of times what they do is pick kids that have, maybe they might be suspended or they’re concerned about them. There’s some risk factor. And so, and then we’re also talking to EO Green Middle School frontier High School. So yeah. We’re talking to different schools and signing contracts to get started real soon.

Paul Ward (19:00):

So the at risk students would be the ones that would

Heidi Allison (19:04):

For Teen interface

Paul Ward (19:04):

Participate. Yeah. I never really thought about, you know, it’s interesting that you’ve created the center where the participants are getting help, but they don’t feel like they’re a, a, a patient. Right. Exactly. You’ve got all the activities.

Heidi Allison (19:19):

Exactly.

Paul Ward (19:19):

That make them feel comforted and, and peers and Right. You know, other folks that are going through the same experiences that, that they’re going through. And so they’re not alone in this journey. You know, they’re not going to a medical facility and being, you know, lectured by a doctor. They’re Right. Talking to other folks that have, have, have gone down this journey and helping them realize that there’s, you know, there’s, there’s light at the end of the tunnel.

Heidi Allison (19:45):

That’s exactly it. And that PI mean, there’s a lot of research backing up. Peer recovery coaching is an evidence-based practice with young people in particular. It’s extremely effective. And we just saw that with our son. Mm-Hmm.

Larry Rhoades (19:56):

<Affirmative> Well, I think what, what Heidi and I didn’t want is, is to have a, a building or a place that was clinical in, and it felt clinical when you walk in, you know, white walls and, and medical or clinical in nature. And our perception

Paul Ward (20:12):

Is behind the glass.

Larry Rhoades (20:13):

Yeah. You Yeah. You, you walk into our place and it feels like a, a recreational clubhouse. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>, you know, and they, most kiddos at once they’re there will feel exceedingly comfortable there, which is what we want. Right.

Paul Ward (20:27):

You know, they’re not really there for treatment as a patient, as you said, they’re a

Larry Rhoades (20:31):

Exactly. For a participant. Exactly.

Paul Ward (20:33):

So you also have a board of directors. You’ve, you’ve formed a board.

Heidi Allison (20:37):

Yes. So in order to start a nonprofit, you have to have a board of directors. If we do, this isn’t something we could do on our own. Mm-Hmm. <Affirmative>. So yes, we have we have a really great kind of combination of people who have some who are therapists. One woman heads up a counseling agency of like 10 therapists. We have our treasurer is a former PR media relations person from Toyota for 25 years. And then we have another person, he’s our philanthropy specialist. So yeah. So it’s, our board is small and we wanna grow it. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. But yeah, we have a board, we have advisors. And it, the thing that has been kind of miraculous to Larry and I is at the beginning especially, but even now, how doors just would open and, like, for example, one really key relationship came from Nate, his friend’s mom, who really was, you know, really liked.

Heidi Allison (21:35):

Nate works with the Ventura County Medical Center Addiction Clinic Clinic. The head, the head of all of the residents, Dr. Conn. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So we’re now starting a partnership with them, and the residents are gonna start coming every week and giving a part of their fellowship is to give a talk, a 15 minute education talk, and then they’re gonna spend time with the kids doing activities. And so, yeah. So it’s like the whole community of Ojai and, and also Oxnard, Nate’s friends, they helped us paint the building. They come and help us. I mean, just donate things. And so it’s really taken a village kind of to make this work.

Paul Ward (22:16):

That’s wonderful. Yeah. And so it sounds like the plans for the future are, are, are growth expansion, treating or helping, helping more participants?

Heidi Allison (22:26):

Absolutely. That’s our goal is, and who knows, maybe having another Nate’s place in another, you know, area of Ventura County, because what we’re seeing, we’re collecting data. We have a data specialist. We do questionnaires at the beginning and then every couple months on how they’re doing with their substance use and their mental health. And, and we’re, we’re seeing this works. This is, it’s, yeah. It’s very, very effective. We’re seeing their depression rates going down. Many of ’em are becoming abstinent. We have an AA for young persons. We have an Al-Anon for parents. We’re starting a parent support group. So yeah, it just yeah, we’re, we’re seeing what worked for Nate is working in this community.

Paul Ward (23:07):

That’s wonderful. Nate’s, Nate, Nate’s legacy. Definitely, definitely lives on.

Heidi Allison (23:11):

Absolutely.

Paul Ward (23:12):

So how can, how can folks who are listening, watching you know, might have a, a, you know, a child, adult child with an issue, how can they get ahold of you and, and learn more?

Heidi Allison (23:25):

Yeah, so they can go on our website, which is Nate’s place, wellness center@gmail.com. And there’s a phone number and there’s also an email. Okay. And they reach out and we we, our goal is to respond within 24 hours. And usually they’ll, they’ll get me, <laugh> and I spend time on the phone just to make sure we’re the right place for them. If they need referrals, I help with that. If yeah, if they if they seem to meet the criteria, then I schedule an intake with them. Okay. Yeah.

Paul Ward (24:00):

And and then nonprofits and, and other organizations can also reach out and sounds like you’ve got a lot of collaborating as well.

Heidi Allison (24:09):

Yes, definitely. Yeah, we’re totally open to partnerships and collaborating. And then we’re, we’re a young nonprofit, you know, most nonprofits don’t last beyond a couple years, so we’re always looking for people who are interested in helping us fund Nate’s place.

Paul Ward (24:25):

Then you’ve got a, you’ve got a one year anniversary event coming up?

Heidi Allison (24:28):

Yes. That’s Wednesday, February 28th at 6:00 PM It’s open to the community. We hope as many people as possible come. We’re gonna have the councilman Gabe Tran will be there speaking, and some of our coaches will be speaking and telling their stories. We have great enchiladas and taquitos from Cancun Restaurant, and then we’ll have art activities, exercise, music. So it’ll be a way to kind of see Nate’s place, you know, in action.

Paul Ward (24:59):

Wonderful. Well, Heidi, Allison and Larry Rhodes, thank you so much for sharing your story and telling us about Nate. And we’ll happily spread the word about Nate’s place and all the, all the good works that you do.

Heidi Allison (25:12):

Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you so much, Paul. Absolutely. Yeah. Thank you Paul. Alright. Okay. Have a good day.

Paul Ward (25:18):

You too. Bye-Bye. Okay.